These are two examples of a certain type of 16 size Elgin pocketwatch dial. Most Elgin dials are highly standardized and interchangeable on Elgin pocketwatches, of a given size, throughout the company's 100 year history. But these are for certain higher end 16 size models, including B. W. Raymond grades. They are double sunk with railroad approved markings, set up for open faced cases. But their feet are in different places for usual, and the holes in the center and for the seconds hand are slightly closer together than on other Elgin dials, meaning that watches that need these dials have to have this dial.
These are getting quite hard to find in good condition. The fact that they are often not recognized by people selling them as being just slightly different makes finding one that much harder. Better parts dealers will recognize these, but then they will also want 3 or 4 times a typical price.
Both of these examples are imperfect, as the photos show.
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