Job Number 250148

There's a lot of screws in these.

The underside of the mainspring barrel includes cut-outs for a Geneva Stop. The parts are missing though, as they almost always are. I don't know if Elgin stopped installing this complication at some point or if watchmakers servicing the watch left it out. These are very uncommon parts.

The Geneve Stop halts winding just before the end of the spring. It's not required for the watch to run perfectly normally, and it may not have been clear to some how to line up the gear when assembling the barrel.

The setting mechanism looks good. I'm optimistic that it won't need much effort to get it working correctly. A little too much wear on that flat spring and the inner wheel will not stay engaged.

The album for this project is here:

Elgin serial number 3793826 is a grade 70, 18 size, 15 jewels, made about 1890. This is a B.W. Raymond model.

Job Number 250148

Here's a before image... It's pretty clean and all there.

This style of lever-setting mechanism is remarkably clever, but for good reason it wasn't used by Elgin for long. Note the setting wheel in the center with teeth both inside and outside. The tension on this, so is stays engaged on the cannon pinion, is critical and hard to get just right.


Elgin serial number 3793826 is a grade 70, 18 size, 15 jewels, made about 1890. This is a B.W. Raymond model.

Job Number 250142

Here are a few before images. This one is a bit rough around the edges.
This is an H.H. Taylor model, Elgin serial number 287949, grade 58, 18 size, 15 jewels, made about 1873.

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As sometimes is the case with early, slow beat movements, my timing machine is useless. It somehow fails to lock on and give a valid reading. The machine never tells the whole story anyway. It's just for getting in the ballpark. I always do practical 24 hour tests in positions. In instances like this though, I can't even get it in the ballpark without putting the hands on and letting it run.

I was pleasantly surprised, it's almost perfect, with in  minute, as-is 24 hours after assembly.
I had to file off a bit of a case washer to make it narrow enough to fit against the hinge.


Job Number 250140

Here's another nice Illinois Watch Company product, the A. Lincoln model.



This one is ticking but the upper pivot of the balance staff is all but worn away causing too much end-shake. The balance wheel touches the pallet bridge in certain orientations. I'll have to replace the staff.

Unfortunately I don't have it on hand so they'll be a delay until the part arrives. Illinois part number 47607, by the way, for a two-part double roller...

Illinois number 2834773 is an A. Lincoln, model 9, 16 size, 21 jewels made about 1915.

Job Number 250139

Here's all the motor barrel parts for this style.




After getting the movement all together and running, I found I actually had to loosen the cannon pinion - the opposite of the typical problem. Close examination showed it had clearly been tightened in the past, but too much. It was very hard to set. That's particularly bad because it's easy to break teeth on off if moving it requires too much force.


Illinois serial number 5128763 is a Bunn Special, Type III, Model 14, 16 size, 21 jewels, made about 1928. 



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